Wink Martindale was within the coaches’ assembly room at Giants headquarters interviewing for the defensive coordinator place in February when he was summoned to fulfill with normal supervisor Joe Schoen.
Martindale left his cellphone on the assembly room desk when he stepped out. It rang, and Giants defensive backs coach Jerome Henderson couldn’t assist however discover the caller ID that includes the title of a head coach from one other crew available in the market for a defensive coordinator.
A couple of minutes handed and one other name got here from the pinnacle coach, who presumably had gotten wind Martindale was interviewing with the Giants and needed to make his pitch earlier than something was finalized. When Giants head coach Brian Daboll returned to the room, Henderson made him conscious of the competitors to rent Martindale, who had already made a robust impression.
“I see his telephone is blowing up. I instructed Daboll,” Henderson stated. “After which it’s ringing once more, and I used to be like, ‘You higher do one thing fast.’”
The Giants didn’t waste any time. Daboll made a suggestion, Martindale accepted and neither has seemed again.
Martindale is now the headliner of the all-star workers Daboll assembled in his first head-coaching job following 25 years as an assistant. Somewhat than depend on previous associates and former colleagues, Daboll as an alternative oversaw an progressive interview course of that grew as every assistant was employed.
The result’s a training workers that helped lead the Giants again to the playoffs for the primary time since 2016. Daboll and his assistants described to The Athletic how the workers got here collectively.
Thomas McGaughey had been the Giants’ particular groups coordinator since 2018, serving on the staffs of earlier head coaches Pat Shurmur and Joe Decide. When Decide was fired after final season, there was no assure his successor would retain any assistants, so McGaughey needed to discover different choices.
He was supplied the particular groups coordinator jobs with the Chargers and Panthers and declined an interview request from the Bears, however stated, “I wasn’t actual fired up about (the opposite groups), to be trustworthy with you as a result of I needed to remain right here.”
McGaughey had no relationship with Daboll, who made an introductory telephone name when he grew to become a candidate for the Giants job. The night time he was employed, Daboll known as McGaughey. The interview lasted 5 minutes.
“He was like, ‘OK, you’re in entrance of the room, first time you meet the crew: Go!,’” McGaughey stated. “He stopped me midway by way of and he was like, ‘Look, do you wish to be right here?’ I used to be like, ‘Yeah, I wish to be right here.’ It’s been nice ever since.”
Daboll’s different coordinator hires have been extra sophisticated. Daboll put himself in place to land the Giants job attributable to his proficiency calling performs because the Payments offensive coordinator from 2018-21. However understanding how a lot time and power went into getting ready to name a sport, Daboll determined he needed his offensive coordinator to deal with that important obligation so he may higher handle all the crew.
“You simply spend a lot time going by way of conditions and assembly and speaking together with your workers and going again and watching tape,” Daboll stated. “I didn’t wish to simply sit within the offensive room.”
An in depth listing of candidates was whittled to Chiefs quarterbacks coach/passing sport coordinator Mike Kafka, Texans quarterbacks coach/passing sport coordinator Pep Hamilton and Browns vast receivers coach/passing sport coordinator Chad O’Shea.

“I cherished my time in Kansas Metropolis,” Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka stated. “Was it straightforward to go away? No. However I do know deep down in my coronary heart this is a chance to develop and put your personal stamp on it.” (Picture by Scott Winters / Icon Sportswire through Getty Pictures)
Daboll and Kafka had no historical past except for six months along with the Patriots throughout the 2013 offseason. Kafka was a backup quarterback, and Daboll was returning as tight ends coach after a sequence of unsuccessful OC jobs away from New England. They labored collectively to study and re-learn the Patriots’ offense.
Kafka’s teaching profession blossomed in Kansas Metropolis, however he knew there was all the time a ceiling there since head coach Andy Reid known as performs. So Kafka took his first offensive coordinator interview with the Giants — he was blocked from interviewing for the Eagles’ OC place in 2020 — and the chance to name performs was interesting.
“I cherished my time in Kansas Metropolis,” Kafka stated. “Was it straightforward to go away? No. However I do know deep down in my coronary heart this is a chance to develop and put your personal stamp on it.”
Daboll didn’t make him any guarantees throughout the interview course of, reserving the suitable to reclaim play-calling duties.
“I needed him to do it in OTAs after which we’ll revisit it,” Daboll stated. “When you name performs for a very long time, you’re form of used to doing it, so it’s form of like watching your child go to varsity. You’ve obtained to allow them to go someday.”
Kafka handed the check within the spring and has known as performs all season.
“To show play-calling over to Kafka, that’s unparalleled,” stated Daboll’s agent Bob LaMonte, who has represented most of the NFL’s prime coaches over a 40-year profession. “Usually ego units in and the coach who calls the performs, which he’s at good at, by no means flip that over.”
Defensive coordinator was a extra pivotal rent contemplating Daboll’s experience on offense. Initially, it appeared like that might be a easy course of, as Daboll had labored with Giants DC Patrick Graham for 3 years in New England.
They’d a robust relationship and it was anticipated that Graham would stick with the Giants except he obtained the Vikings head teaching job. However Graham, who additionally interviewed for the Giants’ head teaching emptiness, surprisingly departed to develop into the defensive coordinator for an additional former Patriots assistant, Josh McDaniels, in Las Vegas.
“I hoped he was going to remain, and he determined to go in a distinct route,” Daboll stated.
Graham’s abrupt exit compelled Daboll to scramble for alternate options. He once more solid a large web, with Martindale, Missouri defensive coordinator Steve Wilks and Bears defensive coordinator Sean Desai rising because the finalists who got here to New Jersey for in-person interviews.
Martindale unexpectedly grew to become accessible in January after 10 years with the Ravens, together with the final 4 as one of many prime defensive coordinators within the NFL. Daboll and Martindale didn’t have a private relationship, however there was mutual respect from their matchups as opposing play callers over time.
Martindale was enjoying golf in Florida when Daboll first known as in regards to the Giants’ DC job.
“I used to be going to take a yr off to play golf as a result of I had a yr left on my contract,” Martindale stated.
The chance to hitch Daboll with the Giants, who interviewed Martindale for his or her head teaching job in 2020, was intriguing. A Zoom interview shortly led to an in-person assembly.
“They flew me up that night time after I did the Zoom,” Martindale stated. “I had nothing on however golf gear. I wore golf footwear into the interview. I had no go well with and tie — nothing.”
Martindale’s credentials have been unmatched by the opposite candidates — three finishes within the prime three in scoring protection in 4 seasons as a DC. His swagger meshed effectively with Daboll’s workers. And there was no questioning he was going to be in demand if the Giants dragged their toes.
Daboll didn’t hesitate, and the Giants gave Martindale a three-year contract, a yr longer than the everyday coordinator deal.
“Going towards his system, it’s a difficult system to arrange for. All the time had numerous respect for him and the way he did issues,” Daboll stated. “I assumed Wink did a implausible job and hit it off with all the fellows.”

Giants defensive backs coach Jerome Henderson and different assistants took half in Brian Daboll’s collaborative hiring course of. Henderson, a holdover from Joe Decide’s workers, was concerned in numerous interviews as a result of he was one of many first members of the workers. (Kirby Lee / USA In the present day)
That Henderson and different place coaches have been within the room for Martindale’s interview was a part of Daboll’s collaborative hiring course of. Typically, a potential coordinator might solely interview with the pinnacle coach and different higher-ups, whereas place coaches sometimes solely meet with the coordinator and head coach.
However Daboll concerned each coach on workers with each interview, no matter rank. There have been 18 coaches within the room by the point Daboll employed Bryan Cox as assistant line of defense coach in mid-February.
“If I ever obtained this opportunity, I needed to make it a really inclusive hiring course of with the people who I do rent, making them a part of it to allow them to present me checks and balances,” Daboll stated. “Everybody would have possession in it. I simply thought that was actually vital.”
Henderson, a holdover from Decide’s workers who beforehand labored with Daboll in Cleveland, was concerned in numerous interviews as a result of he was one of many first members of the workers. And it wasn’t a passive course of for the assistants.
“I might begin, and I had an inventory of a major quantity of questions. As soon as I obtained achieved, then Jerome would pop on the Zoom, and he would ask it by way of a defensive again lens,” Daboll stated. “All people simply had free rein to leap on and ask questions. It was a fairly in depth interview that coated numerous totally different areas.”
Henderson, who has been NFL assistant for 5 groups over the previous 15 years, had by no means skilled that sort of interview course of. The remainder of the workers echoed the unprecedented nature of Daboll’s strategies.
“It was among the best experiences of my teaching profession,” McGaughey stated. “I assumed it was simply genius by Dabes, having the workers having enter within the guys you’re going to work with daily. I used to be utterly blown away by the method.”
Henderson was significantly excited to interview — and study from — Martindale, who’s recognized for his unique stress packages. Henderson pulled clips from three Ravens video games towards prime quarterbacks so Martindale may clarify his method.
“My job was to problem him a bit of bit from that standpoint to create some robust questions so Daboll may hear him reply them,” Henderson stated. “We pulled up these video games and went by way of them and he did an amazing job of laying out his ideas and the way he thinks about defensive soccer.”
After some preliminary warning, the interviews morphed into chalk-talk periods as coaches from numerous positions quizzed candidates.
“There was some guardedness, like, ‘If I inform you after which I don’t get the job …’” offensive line coach Bobby Johnson stated. “I requested Kafka some questions, ‘In your safety system, if that is introduced by a protection, what’s your reply?’ And he didn’t simply blurt out a solution. He examined the water a bit of bit after which as we went down the highway, it confirmed some belief on his half. He’d ask, ‘How would you deal with it?’ I used to be like, ‘Right here’s the difficulty. Right here’s how I believe I might deal with it, however I’m additionally searching for new methods to deal with it.’ As soon as that occurred, it was enjoyable as a result of there was simply this free-flowing soccer dialogue.”
After each spherical of interviews for every place, Daboll would ballot all the workers.
“We actually went across the room and voted,” tight ends coach Andy Bischoff stated. “Actually, ‘Who desires (vast receivers coach Mike) Groh? Who desires so and so?’ After they have been 4-4, then it was like, ‘OK, let’s re-think this, and let’s discuss once more.’ Or, ‘Possibly let’s sleep on this one.’ (Daboll) by no means actually voted. He simply let the workers have the dialog, which was actually cool. It was actually distinctive, actually visionary when it comes to hiring.”
Daboll had his personal listing of candidates for each place on his workers, however he additionally was open to ideas from all of his assistants. That led to him hiring quite a few assistants with restricted previous connections, together with all three coordinators, Bischoff, Groh, working backs coach DeAndre Smith and line of defense coach Andre Patterson.
“Dre Patterson, who’s a extremely good line coach — I had no concept who Dre Patterson was,” Daboll stated. “I wasn’t anxious about understanding them. I needed different views. I actually went as outdoors the field as I may to get candidates. I’m snug in my very own pores and skin with sitting down and speaking to individuals and making an attempt to make the very best determination for our crew.”
The egalitarian method fostered chemistry on the workers.
“If I get a head-coaching job, I’ll do it the identical approach,” Martindale stated. “As a result of what occurs is, when you like a man, and also you say, ‘That is my man,’ after which Dabes goes with him, now you’ve gotten a vested curiosity on this man.”
Not each assistant was international to Daboll. He spent two years in Cleveland with Henderson on Eric Mangini’s workers. Inside linebackers coach John Egorugwu was in Buffalo with Daboll from 2018-20. Johnson and quarterbacks coach Shea Tierney, who was additionally with Daboll at Alabama in 2017, got here from Buffalo.
Martindale got here as a bundle cope with outdoors linebackers coach Drew Wilkins, who grew into his mentor’s most trusted lieutenant throughout 10 years collectively in Baltimore.
“Wink cherished Drew and thought Drew was actually good at Baltimore with him,” Daboll stated. “I believe that’s vital if you end up a coordinator to at the very least have one particular person you’re accustomed to as a result of you may draw on experiences.”
Placing collectively a workers from such a variety of backgrounds made for an intensive offseason. After the in depth interview course of, offensive techniques wanted to be melded, and defensive coaches wanted to study Martindale’s schemes.
“We didn’t actually have an offseason final yr, which I’m not complaining about in any respect,” Daboll stated. “From the beginning of it throughout, we have been (within the workplace) later generally than we’re throughout the week throughout the season.”
With most wives and youngsters not shifting instantly to New Jersey, these first few months have been pure soccer. That helped strengthen the bonds that have been created throughout the interview course of.
“We’d are available, everyone works out within the morning; we grind and get taught the offense; we go to dinner, return to the resort and possibly have a cocktail and do it once more,” Smith stated. “It was paradise.”
That’s precisely the sensation Daboll aimed to domesticate along with his workers, understanding a robust chemistry amongst coaches would finally cascade all the way down to the gamers.
“If you’re bringing individuals in, as a frontrunner, you’re additionally taking a look at how everyone meshes,” Daboll stated. “As a result of simply as vital as gamers are to crew chemistry, I’d say the coaches are as vital they usually must set the tradition and the chemistry.”
The outcomes are unattainable to dispute. Daboll took over a crew that was tied for the worst document within the NFL over the earlier 5 seasons. A wage cap mess and a depleted roster didn’t portend prompt success. However the management of Daboll and his workers has guided the Giants out of the abyss and again to the playoffs.
“The tradition right here is so robust and the vibe is so totally different,” McGaughey stated. “The gamers really feel it. They know when the coaches are tight collectively they usually know when the coaches aren’t tight collectively. I actually assume the rationale we’ve had the success that we’ve had is as a result of we’re so tight-knit. Guys don’t blink as a result of they like one another. They genuinely like one another and struggle for one another. It’s simply totally different. It truly is.”
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